Parenthetical Scene 5.1: Chapter 14 appears to have 3 sections that span a full 7 years of great tribulation.

  1. A beginning: Revelation 14:1-8

  2. A middle: Revelation 14:9-13

  3. An end: Revelation 14:15-20

The beginning verses 1-8: Beginning of 7 years of great tribulation

Verses 1-8 describe 4 events: the 144,000 with Jesus, the new song, the gospel message with worship, and the fall of Mystery Babylon.

The middle verses 9-13: Transitioning into the first 1260 days of that tribulation.

Verses 9-13 describe 2 events: the warning against worshipping the beast, and the patience of the saints.

The end verses 15-20: Transitioning into the closing of 7 years of great tribulation

Verses 15-20 describe 3 events: Jesus reaping the earth upon exiting the temple, the reaping from the altar messenger with power over fire, and the winepress trodding.

Bookends: Jesus appears twice at the start on earth and at the end in the clouds.

Important Note: In Revelation 7, the 144,000 are not yet sealed, and when they are sealed, a group of saints begins coming out of tribulation. If that group of saints comes out of tribulation near the moment the 144,000 are sealed, and we see that same 144,000 now sealed here with the Lamb, then it is possible the saints coming out of tribulation happen near this very moment in Revelation 14:1, but no later than 14:8 at the fall of Mystery Babylon (before all this is also an option but I do not think that is the case, as this study I hope demonstates).

14And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion (a), and with him an hundred forty and four thousand (e) [r.0], having his name and the name of the Father (fn) written in their foreheads [r.1] [r.2] [r.3].
[fn]

In early manuscripts like Sinaiticus, it says that the 144,000 have the Lamb's and the Father's names. So, the ESV includes the Lamb's name. The KJV does not include the name of the Lamb.

[fn]

It might first appear that Revelation 14:1-5 serves as a conclusion to chapters 12-13. Yet chapters 12-13 describe Israel symbolically as the “woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars.” Revelation 14:1 shifts away from that imagery and instead identifies the group directly by the numbered company first introduced in Revelation 7. This change in description seems to mark a boundary line between the narrative concerning the woman and the three beasts, and the narrative concerning the Lamb and the 144,000—even though the woman and the 144,000 appear to represent the same group from different perspectives.

[r.0]
[r.1]

Re 7:2, Re 7:4, Re 9:4, Re 11:14, Re 14:1, Re 22:4References to the 144,000

[r.2]

Re 7:2-3, Re 14:1, Ezekiel 9:1-4, Deuteronomy 6:4-9References to the placement of a mark on foreheads.

(a)

Re 14:1, Re 12:5The time when Jesus appears on earth, at the start of the 1260 days. Not the end of the 7 years.

(e)

Re 14:1, Re 7:4, Re 12:1The appearance of the 144,000 by name or symbolically.

(fn)

Re 14:1, Re 7:2The name of the Father and the Son on the forehead of the 144,000 exclusively from the twelve tribes of Israel (Dan replaced by Manasseh).

[art]

Important Note: Revelation 14:2 may be understood in one of two ways: either as a single unified heavenly sound associated with the harpers, or as two distinct auditory sources—a heavenly voice described as “many waters” and “great thunder,” alongside the separate sound of harpers proceeding from the same heavenly realm. While the grammar permits either reading, the broader textual evidence leans slightly toward the latter interpretation: a unified heavenly scene composed of two distinguishable sounds.

Notably, Revelation 14:2 uses the singular expression “a great thunder” to describe the sound at first, which is odd if it is meant to represent a collective or multitudinous sound — we would expect the plural, like "many great thunders" if the group is a collective. In fact, Revelation 19:6 does just that. It employs the plural “thunders” in connection with a great multitude. This makes Revelation 14:2 a uniquely compressed construction, in which a singular sound can appear to encompass what could otherwise be expressed in plural form.

Further, Revelation 14:2 is distinctive in that John twice states that he “heard” the voice from heaven. This repetition is unusual. In Revelation 19:6, John describes a similar and composite heavenly sound, yet he does not divide the description by repeating the verb “heard” as he does in 14:2. These features together suggest that John may intentionally be distinguishing two heavenly sounds: first, by alternating between singular and plural forms, and second, by separating the auditory descriptions through repeated statements of "hearing", as both proceed from the same heavenly source.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven [r.5], as the voice of many waters [r.6], and as the voice of a great thunder [r.7] [r.8] (ja): and the voice I heard was [like] harpers harping with their harps [r.9]:
[fn]

I have not been able to locate anywhere in Revelation, much less the New Testament, where a collective group is described by a comparison using a singular noun with a singular adjective, yet in Revelation 14:2 we see just that—“the sound of a great thunder” in relation to the harpers—whereas in 19:6 a group is described with plural “thunders,” suggesting something more may be occurring here, though it is safest not to press the distinction too far; it may indicate either a unified voice from the harpers or two distinct heavenly sounds, one from the harpers and another like thunder, also described as the voice of many waters. The only voice at this point with a singular voice of many waters is Jesus; thus, the text of this verse may be communicating the ascension of Jesus as the Lamb from Mount Zion into heaven, much like the ascension into heaven of the man child in Revelation 12:5 to the same place, at the throne.

[r.5]
[r.6]

Re 1:15, Re 14:2, Re 19:6The phrase "the voice of many waters" in Revelation 14:2 appears primarily to describe the volume and overwhelming power of the sound. While this imagery is elsewhere used of Christ (Revelation 1:15), its presence here does not by itself identify the speaker as Jesus with certainty. The expression can function descriptively rather than personally, emphasizing magnitude rather than identity. Therefore, the phrase alone is not sufficient to determine whether the voice belongs specifically to Christ or simply characterizes the sound being heard.

[r.7]

Re 6:1, Re 14:2, Re 19:6The thunder sound is used in the singular form βροντῆς in 6:1 and 14:2. In 6:1, βροντῆς is established as coming from one entity when used this way. In 19:6, we see the plural form for thunder used as βροντῶν. Thus, in 14:2, it should very likely be understood that the first voice "of many waters" is coming from a singular entity, not the plural group of harpers that are divided from the voice of many waters.

[r.8]

Re 12:5, Re 14:2

[r.9]

Re 5:8, Re 14:2, Re 15:2Harps in Revelation function as an identifying marker of those who are singing. They consistently accompany songs in the book and serve to signal who sings, but no particular identity beyond the singers.

(ja)

Re 14:2, Re 12:5The connection between 12:5 and 14:1-2 may be communicating the ascension of Jesus to the throne before the start of the first 1260 days of the tribulation.

Important Note: This “new song” is likely similar to the one in Revelation 5, where the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders are present, and redeemed persons are also included in the scene. The wording here suggests continuity in theme and setting.

3 And they sung [as it were] a new song (s) before the throne , and before the four beasts [r.10], and the elders [r.11]: and none could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand [r.12], who were redeemed (v) from the earth.
[lex]

"redeemed", in TR and CT, the Greek word is ηγορασμενοι. In Revelation 5 the KJV renders this word the same "redeemed", the ESV does not.

[lex]

ωδην καινην – a new song.

[r.12]
(s)

Re 14:3, Re 5:9"A new song" is sung about a redeemed group of people in both Chapter 5:9 and Revelation 14:3-5. In both cases, the song is set in the throne room of heaven with the 24 elders and 4 beasts. Both songs are Lamb-centered and connected to the redeemed. Both are "new". The thematic resonance suggests that these two distant texts share a common thread. This is important because it may suggest a parallel timing of events. The two songs are not identical, though; the words of the new song in Revelation 14:3 remain hidden, and we know the words to the new song in Revelation 5:9. The new song in Revelation 14:3 appears to be about the redeamed 144,000, and in Revelation 5:9 the new song is about "every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation". That division of the songs by their subject groups deeply mirrors Revelation 7, where the 144,000 are initially sealed and the "immense multitude, which none could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues" is seen coming out of that great tribulation.

(v)

Re 14:3, Re 5:9, Re 14:4The object of each new song appears to be a redeemed group of people. Revelation 14, the 144,000. Revelation 5, "every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation".

4 These are those who were not defiled with women; for they are virgins [r.13]. These are they who follow the Lamb wherever he goes [r.14]. These were redeemed (v) from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
[r.13]

Re 14:4, Matthew 25:1-13If Matthew 25:1-13 is about the 144,000, then they best fit the wise virgins.

[r.14]

Re 14:4, Re 19:14Only places where follow (ἀκολουθέω) the Lamb are used. Note, if these (144,000 in 14:4) are those that follow on white horses (19:14) as this exegesis seems to imply, then the 144,000 are seen with him before the first resurrection. This then seems to place the reaping in the clouds by the Son of Man (14:16) before that first resurrection.

(v)

Re 14:4, Re 5:9, Re 14:3The object of each new song appears to be a redeemed group of people. Revelation 14, the 144,000. Revelation 5, "every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation".

5 And in their mouth was found no guile [r.15]: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
[fn]

Zephaniah 3:12-13 is an interesting verse.

[r.15]

Re 2:2, Re 14:5, Re 21:8, Re 21:27, Re 22:15The Greek in 14:5, 21:27, 22:15 for "lie" or "guile" is ψεῦδος, which denotes the lie itself—the false statement or deception. It is related to ψευδής which describes that which is characterized by falsehood [2:2, 21:8].

6 And I saw another messenger fly [r.16] in midheaven [r.17], having the everlasting gospel [r.18] to proclaim unto those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people [r.19],
[lex]

Any time Revelation uses the verb πέτομαι (“to fly”), it consistently relates to birds or explicitly an eagle (4:7; 8:13; 12:14; 14:6; 19:17). In Revelation 14:6–9, the identities of the three angels are intentionally understated so that the reader’s focus remains on their message. Yet because the first of them in 14:6 is described as flying, the action of flying may suggest an eagle-like messenger, similar to the one in 8:13. Thus, it may be that an eagle-like messenger serves as the means by which the gospel is proclaimed to the whole world before the end comes.

[fn]

The book of Revelation is notably precise in its use of numbers — 666, 1260 days, 4 winds, 24 elders, and so on. When it speaks of “a messenger,” it presents a singular figure, which is significant for understanding how the gospel is proclaimed to the whole world at that time. The emphasis falls not on many agents acting independently, but on a single messenger with a unified identity—one that may even be portrayed with eagle-like imagery.

At the same time, this does not necessarily require that the messenger be a single human, angelic being, or created entity in a strictly literal sense. Given the symbolic nature of Revelation, it could represent a singular, identifiable means or agency through which the message goes forth—something depicted as a flying messenger, perhaps in the likeness of an eagle.

[r.16]
[r.17]

Re 8:13, Re 14:6, Re 19:17μεσουράνημα ("midheaven" or "midst of heaven" or "in the sky" or "directly overhead"). This Greek word is used primarily for birds.

[r.18]

Re 14:6, Matthew 24:14, Isaiah 52:7, Isaiah 61:1-2Based on this text, it is a single messenger of God that preaches the gospel to all the earth at the time of the end. The agent is not the church. What the church did not finish at God's appointed time, God completes.

[r.19]

Re 11:9, Re 13:7, Re 14:6, Re 17:15The world.

7 Saying with a great voice, Fear God [r.20], and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment [r.21] is come: and worship him [r.22] who made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters [r.23].
[fn]

Here we see the command to worship God in contrast to the worship of the beast. This seems to bookend the three messages from the three messengers.

[r.20]
[r.21]

Re 3:10, Re 14:7

[r.22]

Re 5:13, Re 14:7

[r.23]

Re 10:2, Re 10:6, Re 14:7The God of all creation.

Important Note: In Revelation 7, we see the 144,000 getting the seal and the "immense multitude, which none could number" who "came out of great tribulation" just after their sealing. We also see in Chapter 18, when Mystery Babylon falls with the phrase "is fallen, is fallen" a voice then says, "Come out of her, my people". This "come and came out" might be speaking of the same people.

Therefore, when we see the same phrase "is fallen, is fallen" here (linked to Revelation 18:2), we can posit that all the intervening events (the immense multitude coming out and the fall of Mystery Babylon) are happening near the same time. Right after the gospel is preached to the whole world by the messenger.

8 And another messenger (j), a second, saying, is fallen, is fallen Babylon the great (b) [r.24], she who made all nations drink of the wine of the fury of her fornication [r.25].
[fn]

In some manuscripts δευτερος or "a second" is included, which appears to be correct — the TR does not have that text in the Greek. Also, the TR includes οτι, which is translated "because", but that text is not present in the Nestle-Aland, thus the ESV and NASB exclude it.

[fn]

The text deliberately minimizes the individual identity of this messenger, assigning it numbers rather than a name, emphasizing what it proclaims rather than who it is. Therefore, we should not attempt to determine who these angels are from the context of Revelation 14, the passage directs our attention entirely to the message of numbered angels.

[fn]

All the messengers that speak in Revelation 14 speak in a great voice except this messenger. Making this messenger standout from the others, calling attention to it and the reader to ask, "why does this messenger not speak greatly as all the others have?" The answer may be found in Revelation 18:2, the angel there calls out with a "strong voice" and it says the same as this messenger "is fallen, is fallen Babylon the great". If the messenger in 18:2 is the same as the one in 14:8 than it is implied that this standout messenger also calls out greatly. Meaning, all the messengers in Revelation do call out with a great or strong speech.

[r.25]

Re 14:8, Re 17:2, Re 18:3

(b)

Re 14:8, Re 18:2'ἔπεσεν ἔπεσεν Βαβυλὼν ἡ μεγάλη' is 'Fallen, fallen Babylon the great'

[art]
9 And another messenger, a third, followed them, saying with a great voice, If any man worship the beast (wb) and his image [r.26], and receive his mark [r.27] in his forehead [r.28], or in his hand,
[fn]

This seems to bookend the two types of worship: to God (told by messenger one) or the beast (told by messenger three).

[fn]

The third messenger "followed them", meaning it comes after then now with the first two. Thus this third messenger appears to be distinct from the first two and possibly positions the first two together. Possibility: messenger 1 and 2 come out together, messenger 3 follows them later.

[fn]

This verse warns against the worship of the beast and the receiving of his mark. If chapter 14 were meant to continue chapters 12–13, this warning would seem awkward, for the worship of the beast would already have been underway for some time. Thus, the warning would appear late and ill-timed. But if chapter 14 is a parenthetical section of its own, and not a continuation of chapters 12–13, as this study suggests (this study suggests chapter 14:9 is a second perspective of 13:4), then the timing of the warning is most fitting, aligning precisely with the initial introduction of the mark.

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the fury of God [r.29], which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his wrath [r.30]; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone [r.31] in the presence of the holy messengers [r.32], and in the presence of the Lamb:
[fn]

VERY IMPORTANT: After the fall of Mystery Babylon, we see that the wine of God's fury in a cup of wrath is not yet given, it shall be, so we know Mystery Babylon is not Jerusalem because it is given the cup in Revelation 16.

[fn]

The word "holy" is applied to many different things in Revelation, so it cannot serve as a distinguishing marker for interpreting these angels as saints—even though saints are frequently called "holy." In Revelation, "holy" is used of Jesus, the Lord God Almighty, earthly Jerusalem, angels (here), apostles, prophets, those who have part in the first resurrection, the New Jerusalem, and even the one who is holy and remains holy. Because the term is so broadly applied, its presence alone carries little interpretive weight in identifying these figures. They are messengers in a broad sense but likely saints.

[lex]

Here in Revelation 14:10, we see an important distinction in the use of ὀργή and θυμός. Paul uses ὀργή to describe the coming wrath of God—one from which the followers of Jesus are not destined, but from which they receive salvation (1 Thessalonians 5:9; 1 Thessalonians 1:10). This wrath is directed toward the “children of disobedience” (Ephesians 5:6). By contrast, the term θυμός is never used by Paul to describe this particular aspect of divine wrath but is paird at times with ὀργή. Here in 14:10, we see this type of pairing.

θυμός is used here in relation to the winepress of God's fury (θυμός), while ὀργή first appears in Revelation 6:16 (the time of the 6th seal plague, which is before the 1st trumpet plague). This distinction suggests that the kind of wrath Paul describes is associated with events that occur prior to the seven trumpet plagues at the latest. This level of distinction is not without precedent; for example, in Col 3:8 and Eph 4:31, ὀργή and θυμός are distinguished from one another, and Revelation 14:10, 16:19, and 19:15 distinguish them as well.

[r.29]

Re 14:10, Re 14:19, Re 15:1, Re 16:1, Re 16:19, Re 19:15The fury of God, sometimes paired with wrath.

[r.30]

Re 6:16, Re 6:17, Re 11:18, Re 14:10, Re 16:19, Re 19:15The wrath (ὀργή) of the kind Paul speaks about the church not being destined for.

[r.31]

Re 14:10, Re 20:15

[r.32]
11 And the smoke of their torment ascends up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image [r.33], and whosoever receives the mark of his name [r.34].

Parenthetical Scene 5.2: This appears to start at the 5th seal plague in Revelation 6:9 and at the time of the patience of the saints in Revelation 13:10.

12 Here is the patience of the saints (p): here are they who keep the commandments of God [r.35] (m), and the faith of Jesus (fs) [r.36].
[r.35]

Re 12:17, Re 14:12

(p)

Re 14:12, Re 13:10"Here is THE patience" (Ὧδέ ἐστιν ἡ ὑπομονὴ) of the saints. It is written only twice — Revelation 13:10 and 14:12. This is the theme of the middle of the 7-year tribulation and connects deeply with the rest (f) of the saints (rest is also written only twice).

(m)

Re 14:12, Re 12:17, Re 13:7, Re 13:10The dragon uses the sea beast to make war with the saints and overcomes them. These saints are not the 144,000.

(fs)

Re 14:12, Re 13:10The rest, the faith, the patience of those who keep the commandments of God, and the dragon wars by the sea beast to overcome them.

13 And I heard a voice from heaven [r.37] saying unto me, Write [r.38], Blessed [r.39] are the dead who die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, says the Spirit, [r.40] [r.41] that they may rest (f) from their toil [r.42]; and their works do follow them [r.43].
[fn]

Present theme in KJV and ESV original manuscripts, Greek αναπαυσωνται, αναπαησονται, αναπαυσωνται

[r.37]
[r.38]
[r.40]

Re 6:11, Re 13:9, Re 14:13

[r.42]

Re 2:2-3, Re 14:13

[r.43]

Re 9:20, Re 14:13, Re 18:6, Re 20:12-13, Re 22:12The "works" mention in 9:20, 14:13, 18:6, 20:12-13, 22:12 seems related to those of the seven churches in 2:2, 2:9, 2:13, 2:19, 3:1, 3:8, 3:15.

(f)

Re 14:13, Re 6:11The only time rest (ἀναπαύω) is used in Revelation matches exactly to the time of (p) "Here is THE patience".

Parenthetical Scene 5.3: Here we see the harvest and then winepress.

Important Note: This moment best aligns with the 7th trumpet sounding. Revelation 11:15 "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever". The wrath of God can come, but not until the temple is empty which does not happen until Revealtion 15:6.

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat [r.44] like unto the Son of man [r.45], having on his head a golden crown [r.46], and in his hand a sharp sickle.
[r.46]

Re 14:14, Re 19:12στέφανος (crown) is used in Revelation 14:14, not διάδημα (diadem), as in 19:12. These two crowns do not symbolize one another at the level of the Greek text.

[art]
15 And another messenger came out [r.47] of the temple [r.48], crying with a great voice to him who sat on the cloud [r.49], Send thy sickle, and reap: for the hour is come for you to reap (ls); for the harvest of the earth is ripe [r.50].
[fn]

Here it is ὥρα for time, this is expressed as an "hour" more commonly. The different uses of words for "time" in Greek can be confusing, but it is interesting that we get this "appointment" type language here as in other places that seem to relate to this hour.

[r.47]
[r.50]
(ls)

Re 14:15, Re 6:11, Re 10:6, Re 12:14χρονον - seems to link the coming about of judgment to the time when the season ends in Revelation 10.

[art]

Important Note: This is the time when Jesus reaps his people from the earth to bring them to the ongoing wedding and just before the fury of God. Note that the dead tribulation saints are not raised until Revelation 20:4, after the winepress is fully trodden. So it appears that only the living are taken, and the dead are raised later after this reaping. In 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, we see that the dead are raised first, so this reaping is not what Paul is speaking about unless Revelation omits the detail of the dead being raised.

16 And he who sat on the cloud [r.51] cast in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped (n) [r.52].
[fn]

What Paul describes concerning the catching up of believers in 1 Thessalonians 4-5, which the modern church has labeled “the rapture.” There is no such term in all of Scripture as “the rapture,” nor does Scripture explicitly state that every catching-up or gathering passage refers to one singular event that should be identified as the one and only “rapture.” Scripture describes events by their characteristics, not by later theological labels. Thus, if the characteristics of one event are distinct enough from another seemingly similar event, and even conflict with it in meaningful ways, this does not necessarily indicate an error or contradiction. More likely, it points to two different events that share similarities but are not the same event. Therefore, this study does not refer to the event in Revelation 14:16 as a “rapture,” but as a “reaping,” because that is the language Scripture itself uses to describe it.

[fn]

In Rev. 14:16, it appears Jesus reaps the earth of the saints and the 144,000. The most mysterious question, though, is when this reaping happens, again positing that this reaping is for the saints during the tribulation of seven years. Does it occur at the 7th trumpet, after the vial plagues, or perhaps at the 6th seal? Now, this study has already made it clear that the seals, trumpets, and vial plagues cannot overlap in sequence based on exegesis. This means seals 1–7 are followed in time by trumpets 1–7, and the trumpets by vials 1–7. But can we apply the same exegesis to understand the timing of this reaping? Using exegesis, can we determine the leading and proceeding events? Yes.

During the Vials: No

The Son of Man on the clouds appears as angels are exiting the temple. Therefore, this moment cannot occur during any of the seven vial plagues because Rev. 15:8 makes it clear that “none can enter” the temple during the vial plagues. Thus, none can exit the temple either, because none can be in it.

After the Vials? No.

In Rev. 15:1–5, we see those who have overcome the beast in heaven (who are not identified as having died) before any of the vials. Seeing them described as having victory over the beast implies they were on earth during his rule. Thus, if these have come to heaven from earth before the vials, it causes us to inquire how they arrived there. However, this does not immediately mean they have just arrived at that time. It only means they are there by that point. They could have appeared there at any time after the mark of the beast was given.

Before the Mark of the Beast? No.

The reaping cannot happen before the mark of the beast. Not because those in Rev. 15:1–5 have victory over the mark — they do not necessarily need to arrive there through a particular means, though the evidence is mounting in favor of these events being connected. It is actually Revelation 14:12 that makes this clear. In that verse, “the patience of the saints” (Rev. 13:10 and 14:12) is specifically connected to enduring through the rule of the beast and his mark. Since 14:12 comes before 14:16, we can understand such a timing. And it agrees with the saints in Rev. 15:1–5. But when do they actually get there? Right after the mark is given? Long after it is given?

Before the 5th Seal? No.

In Rev. 6:11, we are told that the saints “rest.” This rest is directly connected to “the patience of the saints” and the “rest” of the saints in Rev. 14:13. If we know by now that the reaping happens after “the patience of the saints,” and the “rest” in 6:11 is connected to that same moment, then the reaping cannot occur before the 5th seal.

During Trumpet Plagues 1–5? No.

Rev. 9:4 says that during the 5th trumpet plague the 144,000 are still present, because it implies they are there: “only those men who have not the seal of God in their foreheads” are harmed by the plague of the 5th trumpet. Thus, this leaves the reaping only within the time of the 6th and 7th trumpets.

During the 6th Trumpet? No.

The text of the 6th trumpet does not indicate anything related to the reaping, nor does it make a connection to those in Rev. 15:1–5.

During the Transition from the 7th Trumpet, Right as the 7 Vial Angels Appear? Yes.

Rev. 11:19 says, “the temple of God was opened in heaven,” and Rev. 15:5 says, “the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened.” These verses appear to describe the same moment in time. Further, this fits exactly with the transition pattern from the seal plagues into the trumpets. That is, before any new plagues begin, the seven angels of the next series are made ready and appear. Yet the next set of angels do not act until after the close of the previous plagues. Thus, the only remaining option for the reaping is at the sounding of the 7th trumpet.

[lex]

In 2 Thessalonians 2:1, Paul uses the word ἐπισυναγωγή for "our gathering together," which is not used in any other time in relation to the catching up of believers by Paul. This makes 2 Thessalonians 2:1 distinct in its description from 1 Thessalonians 4:17 (ἁρπάζω to snatch) and 1 Corinthians 15:52 (where a gathering or snatching is not described, only a "changing"). Future, in 2 Thessalonians 2:1, Paul excludes any mention of the resurrection. In 1 Thessalonians and 1 Corinthians 15 is explicit about the resurrection in relation to the change in the living experience.

So, 2 Thessalonians 2:1 could be describing either a gathering without a resurrection (as this study suggests) or simply bundling the resurrection and the catching up into one phase, ἐπισυναγωγή. The safest is to assume that both are possible; however, Revelation makes it hard to read 2 Thessalonians 2:1 as an event that includes a resurrection, as the text of Revelation does not seem to include a resurrection of the dead at this moment in Revelation 14:16. Revelation 14:16 makes it clear that Jesus reaps before the winepress is trodden, and the first resurrection is not until after the winepress is trodden. And this reaping seems linked to the group in Revelation 15:2, not to those in 20:4.

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The moment of this reaping seems deeply connected to Matthew 24:30–31. Yet Matthew 24:30–31 does not describe a resurrection. It describes the Son of man coming, the angels being sent, the trumpet sounding, and the elect being gathered together. The verb is ἐπισυνάγω (episynagō), meaning “to gather together” or “assemble.” Paul uses the related noun ἐπισυναγωγή (episynagōgē) in 2 Thessalonians 2:1 when he speaks of “our gathering together unto him.” In both passages, the focus is on gathering, not resurrection. Neither Matthew 24:30–31 nor 2 Thessalonians 2:1 directly mentions a resurrection, either in the verse itself or in the immediate surrounding context.

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Re 14:16, Matthew 24:31

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Re 14:16, Re 10:7, Re 11:15, Re 15:2When the 7th trumpet blows as the messenger begins to sound (Revelation 11:15), the mystery of God will be finished (Revelation 10:7). At that exact moment, Revelation takes us to chapter 15:2, and we see saints standing on the sea of glass. This also corresponds to the reaping in Revelation 14:16.

Important Note: Here we see two reapings. The first harvest is taken into heaven by "he who sat on the cloud". The second is gathered and cast into the winepress of wrath. This event should not be confused with Matthew 13:30, which occurs at the end of the 1000 years with the lake of fire in Revelation 20:15. We know this because in Matthew 13:30, the harvest of the bad is put before the harvest of the good, and that is the order of events at the end of the 1000 years. This harvest is distinct from Matthew 13:30 in that here the good go up before the bad are put into the winepress.

17 And another messenger came out [r.53] of the temple [r.54] which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.
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18 And another messenger came out from the altar, who has power over fire [r.55] [r.56]; and called with a great voice to him who had the sharp sickle, saying, Send thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. Joel 3:13-17
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The altar is not in the temple.

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Re 14:18, Re 15:2This might be the same fire as the fire under the sea of glass. If angel is the same, then the trumpet plagues have likely passed by this point, because we are looking back at the angel as if we have already seen him.

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Re 8:3-5, Re 9:13, Re 14:18, Re 16:7This is likely the angel who has the golden censer with fire at the altar.

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Joel 3:13-17In Joel's account, the sun, moon, and stars are darkened. We see this not only in the sixth seal, but also across numerous other plagues. Darkness is a recurring theme in Revelation—it is not confined to a single moment.

19 And the messenger cast in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the fury of God (w) [r.58].
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Re 14:10, Re 14:19, Re 15:1, Re 16:1, Re 16:19, Re 19:15The fury of God, sometimes paired with wrath.

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Re 14:19, Re 14:20, Re 16:19, Re 19:15The timing of the "winepress" event is a convergence of the 7th vial plague, the end of Revelation 14, and the start of 19, all at the same point in time, seen from different perspectives.

20 And the winepress was trodden [r.59] outside the city [r.60], and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles (w) (hb) [r.61], by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs [r.62].
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Re 14:20, Re 19:15

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Re 11:8, Re 14:20, Re 16:19

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Re 14:20, Re 14:19, Re 16:19, Re 19:15The timing of the "winepress" event is a convergence of the 7th vial plague, the end of Revelation 14, and the start of 19, all at the same point in time, seen from different perspectives.

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Re 14:20, Re 19:11, Re 19:14The horses in Revelation 19:11-14 seem connected to those in Revelation 14:10.